Human rights attorney Steven Donziger and climate scientist Peter Kalmus are in conversation about the climate crisis, Trump, and where we go from here.
As a paying subscriber to you Steve, a hero of mine, too, I missed this good conversation live. One thing I want to underscore is how smart this is: "All this fascism and genocide is a horror, but it's also a grand distraction as we all slowly cook to death on an overheating planet." Not even the horror of this administration will hold a candle to the harm done if we ignore the apocalypse that is on the way. Trump may even have saved us. Had Kamala won, it would have been business as usual -- how apt that phrase is. But in the total breakdown of what we hold dear, how ironic it will be if the person who is best at everything in the world is best at destroying it, whereby it is forced, in saving itself, to rethink its fundamentals, and collapse and degrowth are taken seriously.
There are now a good number of great climate reporters here on Substack, but it's gadflies all the way down. Peter, I've been talking to Geoffrey Deihl about getting you all together on Zoom to come up with what can educate the public so we can overcome the prevailing ignorance that does not get movement on the most essential subject to be dealing with. How does that sound to you?
As a paying subscriber to you Steve, a hero of mine, too, I missed this good conversation live. One thing I want to underscore is how smart this is: "All this fascism and genocide is a horror, but it's also a grand distraction as we all slowly cook to death on an overheating planet." Not even the horror of this administration will hold a candle to the harm done if we ignore the apocalypse that is on the way. Trump may even have saved us. Had Kamala won, it would have been business as usual -- how apt that phrase is. But in the total breakdown of what we hold dear, how ironic it will be if the person who is best at everything in the world is best at destroying it, whereby it is forced, in saving itself, to rethink its fundamentals, and collapse and degrowth are taken seriously.
There are now a good number of great climate reporters here on Substack, but it's gadflies all the way down. Peter, I've been talking to Geoffrey Deihl about getting you all together on Zoom to come up with what can educate the public so we can overcome the prevailing ignorance that does not get movement on the most essential subject to be dealing with. How does that sound to you?